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EXCLUSIVE — Sen. Rounds laughs off retirement message from AARO's Kirkpatrick "maybe he sees something that we don't know"
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EXCLUSIVE — Sen. Rounds laughs off retirement message from AARO's Kirkpatrick "maybe he sees something that we don't know"
Ep. 78 — Sen. Mike Rounds (11-8-2023)
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Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) laughed when Ask a Pol pressed him on the unexpected retirement of Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick after just shy of 18 months as head of the Pentagon’s new All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).

“Maybe he sees something that we don't know,” Rounds laughed.

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While Rounds, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Mark Warner and Vice-Chair Marco Rubio all pushed Kirkpatrick in recent months for AARO’s failure to provide whistleblowers a place where they felt comfortable talking, Kirkpatrick told Politico he “accomplished” what he set out to at AARO.

“I’m ready to move on. I have accomplished everything I said I was going to do,” Kirkpatrick said.

Just last week, Rounds told Ask a Pol Kirkpatrick had yet to win his confidence.

“I think the judgment, for me, is not yet decided on AARO,” Rounds told us.

Rounds says he’s unfamiliar with Kirkpatrick’s deputy, Tim Phillips, who is slated to temporarily replace him as the head of AARO next month.

Matt Laslo’s a veteran congressional correspondent, new media prof. and founder of Ask a Pol — your conduit to Congress. 

Ask a Pol is a new, people-powered press corps, asking your lawmakers your questions at your US Capitol. Follow us on the socials @Ask_a_Pol (or @askpols on Insta). 

Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s interview with Sen. Mike Rounds, slightly edited for clarity.

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I cover Congress different. I listen. Learning daily. Even while throwing stones at all the glass houses. This will be a stream of my noteworthy interviews. They're conducted at the US Capitol, if not otherwise noted. Matt Laslo is a veteran congressional reporter, Johns Hopkins University lecturer, fmr. Vice News Tonight/HBO correspondent, etc.